And then came the standard reply: “But dude, they’re totally hot! They could be cover models!”

What’s that line? “No matter how hot she is, some man, some where, is tired of her s–t.”

Now, to point out that both sexes are capable of being shallow: I went out with my co-workers for a drink one night. While I chatting away with them, some 60-something guy sat down next to me and slid his hand up my skirt. (EEEWWWW.) When I mentioned that to a woman later on, her response was, “Was he at least rich?”. Sorry, sweetie, not a prostitute.

Isn’t it ironic that such women are more popular with men than with other women?

Women often have freakishly good b.s. detectors with respect to other women… so unpopularity with women, OlympicLeprechaun, is actually quite an insult. (That does not mean that good women never have their detractors; they just also have their supporters and close friends.)

Which leads me to this point: the former Gov. Palin has many hard-core women supporters. I’ve met dozens of women who were tremendously excited by her candidacy. Let me tell you, I am not the only one who did the happy Sarah Palin dance when McCain nominated her.

Cassy’s commenters skew heavily male, but that’s not representative of her personal life. Let’s put it this way: she’s not going to have trouble finding bridesmaids for her wedding.

Spot on, and also pretty much encapsulates the appeal of women like Sarah Palin and Cassy Fiano: beautiful hearts and strong values, which only makes a pretty face and soft curves even more desirable.

Isn’t it ironic that such women are more popular with men than with other women?

True. Case in point, one of my male student workers came back from Europe last semester (it was Study Abroad) and were talking about it at work tonight. He went to Amsterdam and was talking about the prostitutes there. And he went on about how hot they were and that even I would want to have sex with them. I looked at him and said, “No, no I wouldn’t.” And then went on to explain the reasons that I’ve stated a number of times on this website and even in this thread. And then came the standard reply: “But dude, they’re totally hot! They could be cover models!” And unfortunately, that’s a pretty typical attitude on campus (and it’s what I see that’s a big reason that I’m much more pessimistic about our future than you are, but then I happen to lean in that direction anyway…the fact that I’m also an ultra-cynic probably doesn’t help either).

This, of course, doesn’t even add in the cellphone conversation I just happened to overhear on the bus going back from campus to my parking lot in which the guy was obviously drunk and shouting at some girl on the other end. No, there isn’t much integrity at all anywhere it seems. Most guys wouldn’t know integrity if it was right in front of them.

Continuing the list of people for whom I do not shed any tears: men who hear “No sex outside of a committed relationship” or “No sex outside of marriage” and decide that such is unacceptable, but then cannot seem to figure out a) they date mostly bitchy whores and b) why their nice girlfriends will not act like the aforementioned whore exes.

Mat,
Yes, it’s hard to find a woman of integrity; both stupid men and bad women have done their best to ensure that they don’t exist.

I still maintain that conservative public policy groups – some of which meet at lunch time (such as some Federalist Society events… and the group is very happy to have non-lawyers participate!), some in the evenings – might be a good place to look. Alternatively, let it be known that you’re looking (if you haven’t already); a lot of people know very wonderful women who can’t seem to find a decent man (and, as per above, that “acting with integrity” thing can be a deal-breaker with a lot of men).

“Hot women these days are a dime a dozen. What is truly rare is integrity.”

I think this idea applies quite nicely to Ms. Fox.

As for males putting up with that sort of nonsense: they deserve everything that they get.

I have a female friend of mine who used to joke that “women are 50% of the population but we control 100% of the pussy.” I would then ask her how she liked being single. Fortunately, she grew up and married a good guy who, when she occasionally reverts to her former self, simply ignores her bullshit until she comes around.

Hey, I was a physics major. The threat of “no sex” wouldn’t have worked onme because, well, it wouldn’t have been different from any other day.

“Instead of the entire planet, can you just take out all of the white trash, hillbilly, anti-gay, super bible-beating people in Middle America?” – what Megan Fox opines she would say to Megatron if she met him in real life, before all those people who used to go to her movies found out what an elitist snob she is.