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		<title>By: shirley</title>
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		<dc:creator>shirley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2010 16:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You really are a bunch of malajusted weirdo&#039;s on this site, aren&#039;t you?

Creeps.

Funny, isnt it,that all the ranting and raving pays not the slightest attention to facts about whom commits crimes against whom.

Still, I guess factual evaluation is only for reasonable bright (attractive) people, not the women-hating hysterics on this sight.

did you know that males are chromosomally defective females? All scientists will confirm that - no matter what their gender.</description>
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<p>Creeps.</p>
<p>Funny, isnt it,that all the ranting and raving pays not the slightest attention to facts about whom commits crimes against whom.</p>
<p>Still, I guess factual evaluation is only for reasonable bright (attractive) people, not the women-hating hysterics on this sight.</p>
<p>did you know that males are chromosomally defective females? All scientists will confirm that &#8211; no matter what their gender.</p>
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		<title>By: Mat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 03:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Mat,

Be honest for a minute.&quot;

I usually am.  I know my limitations.  

&quot;When you call me names or insult me (bitter, pompous, stupid, “I’m sure all of this will go right over your head,” etc), that’s okay in your book. It’s not okay, however, for me to return fire. 

Looks like Mat can start a fight but can’t end one.&quot;

Well, that&#039;s because you are, in fact, pompous.  That&#039;s just stating a fact.  I don&#039;t think I ever called you stupid, but you&#039;ve called at least three people (including myself) either stupid, moronic or idiotic.  And yes, you do sound bitter to me.  Sorry if you can&#039;t handle that.  BTW, you&#039;re the one still going on with this, so who can dish it out, but cannot take it?  But I&#039;m game to continue this if you are.

&quot;The “pompous” stuff started when you got bitch-slapped into a different time zone after implying that I am scientifically ignorant. Pointing out my scientific credentials and God-given candlepower doesn’t make me pompous; it just makes you a laughingstock of this blog.&quot;

I was unaware that I was &quot;bitch-slapped into any realm.  That&#039;s all in your head (which is pretty swollen).  BTW, you sound an awful lot like McCain during the campaign when he started calling himself a &quot;maverick.&quot;  People usually term others, not themselves.   Seriously, who says &quot;candlepower?&quot;  You really do make bizarre analogies (I thought I was bad with mine).  I prefer electricity myself, but to each his/her own.  As for being a laughingstock, I&#039;m afraid the verdict is still out on that one.  Apparently, you&#039;re now the spokeswoman for the Cassy Fiano blogsite.  Congrads on your promotion.  You can add that title to your collection of scientist and whatever other titles you&#039;ve picked up.  Me?  I just prefer &quot;Mat.&quot;

&quot;Last I heard, 88% of the female population identifies as feminist. So if you have a problem with feminists, you have a problem with about 7 out of 8 women. That’s not a feminist problem, Mat; that’s a woman problem.&quot;  

You heard?  Or read?  Big difference.  Again, you go out of your way to state I&#039;m a woman-hater.  I think I established that I&#039;m anything but.  But continue to live in your fantasy world (chuckle)...

&quot;Then again, those are facts, and, as per below, you don’t do well with those.&quot;

I have no issue with facts.  You&#039;re simply making a lot of claims.  Your claim does not necessarily mean that it&#039;s based on fact.  But keep trying...

&quot;Let’s get back to facts: you picked a fight with me. I fought back. You tried to imply that I was a moron, or didn’t know anything about science.&quot;

Please quote me on this.  You&#039;re the one who started this one way back.  Again, I don&#039;t think I ever called you a moron.  You&#039;re the one throwing those terms around.  As for scientist, I believe I made (roughly) the comment that you like to throw around the fact that you&#039;re a scientist.  Ok, big deal, but a scientist of what, exactly?  Science is a pretty broad topic.  Just because you&#039;re a scientist doesn&#039;t mean squat.  Scientists are never wrong?  Ever?  Let me give you an example.  There are two different groups of scientists on the issue of global warning.  One side swears that it&#039;s all our doing and the other side says &quot;bullshit.&quot;  Who&#039;s to be believed?  Who has the right &quot;facts?&quot;  Scientists are not immune to either arrogant suppositions nor political motivation (in fact if anything, they&#039;re far less likely, at least from what I&#039;ve seen on my campus and I hardly think that&#039;s an exception to the rule).  Simply throwing &quot;scientist&quot; around doesn&#039;t faze me a bit.  Again, you don&#039;t really answer anything I&#039;ve stated.  All I&#039;ve heard so far is &quot;no, you did it, so nyah!&quot;  

&quot;I pointed out that one of my degrees, and several years of my work experience, is in science and high-tech R&amp;D. You then decided that I’m a pompous, man-hating bitch.&quot; 

No, you just said &quot;I&#039;m a scientist,&quot; (and the implication that since I&#039;m not a vaunted scientist, then I must be a Cro-Magnon tard...yes, I fully expect a comment from you on this) as if that&#039;s the end all answer.  You&#039;re the scientist, so how can you possibly be wrong?  And it wasn&#039;t the fact that you were a scientist, it&#039;s the way you said it.  Again, re-read what I wrote.  You seem to have a hard time between what I&#039;m actually saying and what you claim I&#039;m saying.

&quot;If “pompous” is the charge that I’ll have to deal with for not knuckling under to you, and not lying by pretending that we are intellectual equals, then pompous I will be.&quot;

 ok.  You&#039;re so superior to me.  Feel better now?  You seem to want to force this superiority complex on me for some reason.  Did you have a bad childhood?

&quot;Let it be known, though, that I don’t ordinarily give a flying duck about who does and does not have a lot of natural intellectual talent – I care about what they do with it. Nevertheless, woe to those who call me stupid.&quot;

First of all, it&#039;s flying fuck.  If you&#039;re going to say that, then go for the gold.  Obviously, you very much care that you have tons of intellectual superiority over people here, or you wouldn&#039;t yell about it so much.  Like I said, you&#039;re the one who keeps talking about how awesome a scientist you are and that we should all bow to your &quot;infinite&quot; wisdom.  Wow, you really do have an inferiority complex, don&#039;t you?  I&#039;ve never seen anyone go so wacko about this.  Seriously, you really need to start writing for Feministing.  

&quot;Maybe it’s not a man-hating comment, Mat; maybe it’s a Mat-hating comment.  

/bitch-slap&quot;

Ah, is that wit I detect?  Well, since you have no idea of any of the contexts where I&#039;ve heard that, I&#039;ll just chalk that up to ignorance.  
BTW, I want to congradulate you on your maturity with the  comment.  That&#039;s high-school level humor, is it not?  I mean, really, I hear that from my student workers on campus a lot and they&#039;re generally in the 18-19 year old range.  But I do want to thank you.  You proved my point(s) in welcome abundance. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Mat,</p>
<p>Be honest for a minute.&#8221;</p>
<p>I usually am.  I know my limitations.  </p>
<p>&#8220;When you call me names or insult me (bitter, pompous, stupid, “I’m sure all of this will go right over your head,” etc), that’s okay in your book. It’s not okay, however, for me to return fire. </p>
<p>Looks like Mat can start a fight but can’t end one.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, that&#8217;s because you are, in fact, pompous.  That&#8217;s just stating a fact.  I don&#8217;t think I ever called you stupid, but you&#8217;ve called at least three people (including myself) either stupid, moronic or idiotic.  And yes, you do sound bitter to me.  Sorry if you can&#8217;t handle that.  BTW, you&#8217;re the one still going on with this, so who can dish it out, but cannot take it?  But I&#8217;m game to continue this if you are.</p>
<p>&#8220;The “pompous” stuff started when you got bitch-slapped into a different time zone after implying that I am scientifically ignorant. Pointing out my scientific credentials and God-given candlepower doesn’t make me pompous; it just makes you a laughingstock of this blog.&#8221;</p>
<p>I was unaware that I was &#8220;bitch-slapped into any realm.  That&#8217;s all in your head (which is pretty swollen).  BTW, you sound an awful lot like McCain during the campaign when he started calling himself a &#8220;maverick.&#8221;  People usually term others, not themselves.   Seriously, who says &#8220;candlepower?&#8221;  You really do make bizarre analogies (I thought I was bad with mine).  I prefer electricity myself, but to each his/her own.  As for being a laughingstock, I&#8217;m afraid the verdict is still out on that one.  Apparently, you&#8217;re now the spokeswoman for the Cassy Fiano blogsite.  Congrads on your promotion.  You can add that title to your collection of scientist and whatever other titles you&#8217;ve picked up.  Me?  I just prefer &#8220;Mat.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Last I heard, 88% of the female population identifies as feminist. So if you have a problem with feminists, you have a problem with about 7 out of 8 women. That’s not a feminist problem, Mat; that’s a woman problem.&#8221;  </p>
<p>You heard?  Or read?  Big difference.  Again, you go out of your way to state I&#8217;m a woman-hater.  I think I established that I&#8217;m anything but.  But continue to live in your fantasy world (chuckle)&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Then again, those are facts, and, as per below, you don’t do well with those.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have no issue with facts.  You&#8217;re simply making a lot of claims.  Your claim does not necessarily mean that it&#8217;s based on fact.  But keep trying&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Let’s get back to facts: you picked a fight with me. I fought back. You tried to imply that I was a moron, or didn’t know anything about science.&#8221;</p>
<p>Please quote me on this.  You&#8217;re the one who started this one way back.  Again, I don&#8217;t think I ever called you a moron.  You&#8217;re the one throwing those terms around.  As for scientist, I believe I made (roughly) the comment that you like to throw around the fact that you&#8217;re a scientist.  Ok, big deal, but a scientist of what, exactly?  Science is a pretty broad topic.  Just because you&#8217;re a scientist doesn&#8217;t mean squat.  Scientists are never wrong?  Ever?  Let me give you an example.  There are two different groups of scientists on the issue of global warning.  One side swears that it&#8217;s all our doing and the other side says &#8220;bullshit.&#8221;  Who&#8217;s to be believed?  Who has the right &#8220;facts?&#8221;  Scientists are not immune to either arrogant suppositions nor political motivation (in fact if anything, they&#8217;re far less likely, at least from what I&#8217;ve seen on my campus and I hardly think that&#8217;s an exception to the rule).  Simply throwing &#8220;scientist&#8221; around doesn&#8217;t faze me a bit.  Again, you don&#8217;t really answer anything I&#8217;ve stated.  All I&#8217;ve heard so far is &#8220;no, you did it, so nyah!&#8221;  </p>
<p>&#8220;I pointed out that one of my degrees, and several years of my work experience, is in science and high-tech R&amp;D. You then decided that I’m a pompous, man-hating bitch.&#8221; </p>
<p>No, you just said &#8220;I&#8217;m a scientist,&#8221; (and the implication that since I&#8217;m not a vaunted scientist, then I must be a Cro-Magnon tard&#8230;yes, I fully expect a comment from you on this) as if that&#8217;s the end all answer.  You&#8217;re the scientist, so how can you possibly be wrong?  And it wasn&#8217;t the fact that you were a scientist, it&#8217;s the way you said it.  Again, re-read what I wrote.  You seem to have a hard time between what I&#8217;m actually saying and what you claim I&#8217;m saying.</p>
<p>&#8220;If “pompous” is the charge that I’ll have to deal with for not knuckling under to you, and not lying by pretending that we are intellectual equals, then pompous I will be.&#8221;</p>
<p> ok.  You&#8217;re so superior to me.  Feel better now?  You seem to want to force this superiority complex on me for some reason.  Did you have a bad childhood?</p>
<p>&#8220;Let it be known, though, that I don’t ordinarily give a flying duck about who does and does not have a lot of natural intellectual talent – I care about what they do with it. Nevertheless, woe to those who call me stupid.&#8221;</p>
<p>First of all, it&#8217;s flying fuck.  If you&#8217;re going to say that, then go for the gold.  Obviously, you very much care that you have tons of intellectual superiority over people here, or you wouldn&#8217;t yell about it so much.  Like I said, you&#8217;re the one who keeps talking about how awesome a scientist you are and that we should all bow to your &#8220;infinite&#8221; wisdom.  Wow, you really do have an inferiority complex, don&#8217;t you?  I&#8217;ve never seen anyone go so wacko about this.  Seriously, you really need to start writing for Feministing.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Maybe it’s not a man-hating comment, Mat; maybe it’s a Mat-hating comment.  </p>
<p>/bitch-slap&#8221;</p>
<p>Ah, is that wit I detect?  Well, since you have no idea of any of the contexts where I&#8217;ve heard that, I&#8217;ll just chalk that up to ignorance.<br />
BTW, I want to congradulate you on your maturity with the  comment.  That&#8217;s high-school level humor, is it not?  I mean, really, I hear that from my student workers on campus a lot and they&#8217;re generally in the 18-19 year old range.  But I do want to thank you.  You proved my point(s) in welcome abundance.</p>
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		<title>By: Roxeanne de Luca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roxeanne de Luca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 20:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Every, and I do mean every woman I’ve come across that says “I’m a feminist,” will eventually trip themselves up with some man-hating comment (no matter how hard they try, even if they’re married).&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Maybe it&#039;s not a man-hating comment, Mat; maybe it&#039;s a Mat-hating comment. :)

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<p>Maybe it&#8217;s not a man-hating comment, Mat; maybe it&#8217;s a Mat-hating comment. <img src='http://www.cassyfiano.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>/bitch-slap</p>
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		<title>By: Roxeanne de Luca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roxeanne de Luca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 20:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mat,

Be honest for a minute.

When you call me names or insult me (bitter, pompous, stupid, &quot;I&#039;m sure all of this will go right over your head,&quot; etc), that&#039;s okay in your book.  It&#039;s not okay, however, for me to return fire.  

Looks like Mat can start a fight but can&#039;t end one.

The &quot;pompous&quot; stuff started when you got bitch-slapped into a different time zone after implying that I am scientifically ignorant.  Pointing out my scientific credentials and God-given candlepower doesn&#039;t make me pompous; it just makes you a laughingstock of this blog.

Last I heard, 88% of the female population identifies as feminist.  So if you have a problem with feminists, you have a problem with about 7 out of 8 women.  That&#039;s not a feminist problem, Mat; that&#039;s a woman problem.

Then again, those are facts, and, as per below, you don&#039;t do well with those.

Let&#039;s get back to facts: you picked a fight with me.  I fought back.  You tried to imply that I was a moron, or didn&#039;t know anything about science.  I pointed out that one of my degrees, and several years of my work experience, is in science and high-tech R&amp;D.  You then decided that I&#039;m a pompous, man-hating bitch.  

If &quot;pompous&quot; is the charge that I&#039;ll have to deal with for not knuckling under to you, and not lying by pretending that we are intellectual equals, then pompous I will be.  Let it be known, though, that I don&#039;t ordinarily give a flying duck about who does and does not have a lot of natural intellectual talent - I care about what they do with it.  Nevertheless, woe to those who call me stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mat,</p>
<p>Be honest for a minute.</p>
<p>When you call me names or insult me (bitter, pompous, stupid, &#8220;I&#8217;m sure all of this will go right over your head,&#8221; etc), that&#8217;s okay in your book.  It&#8217;s not okay, however, for me to return fire.  </p>
<p>Looks like Mat can start a fight but can&#8217;t end one.</p>
<p>The &#8220;pompous&#8221; stuff started when you got bitch-slapped into a different time zone after implying that I am scientifically ignorant.  Pointing out my scientific credentials and God-given candlepower doesn&#8217;t make me pompous; it just makes you a laughingstock of this blog.</p>
<p>Last I heard, 88% of the female population identifies as feminist.  So if you have a problem with feminists, you have a problem with about 7 out of 8 women.  That&#8217;s not a feminist problem, Mat; that&#8217;s a woman problem.</p>
<p>Then again, those are facts, and, as per below, you don&#8217;t do well with those.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s get back to facts: you picked a fight with me.  I fought back.  You tried to imply that I was a moron, or didn&#8217;t know anything about science.  I pointed out that one of my degrees, and several years of my work experience, is in science and high-tech R&amp;D.  You then decided that I&#8217;m a pompous, man-hating bitch.  </p>
<p>If &#8220;pompous&#8221; is the charge that I&#8217;ll have to deal with for not knuckling under to you, and not lying by pretending that we are intellectual equals, then pompous I will be.  Let it be known, though, that I don&#8217;t ordinarily give a flying duck about who does and does not have a lot of natural intellectual talent &#8211; I care about what they do with it.  Nevertheless, woe to those who call me stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Mat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 14:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Mat, Mat, Mat.

You just don’t get it, do you? You are the one – not me! – who has all sorts of preconceived notions about other people (i.e. those who call themselves feminists). You’re the one who mentioned Alpha males punching women (or a woman in particular – i.e. me) in the face… which, although obviously not literal, is still hilarious in its stupidity.&quot;

I suggest you go back and look at your myriad of responses (not just to me) on this website since you&#039;ve started posted here.  It&#039;ll reveal a pattern.  BTW, you&#039;re the one who started going off on the alpha/beta male crap(who exactly talks like this anyway? Guys are just that...guys...well except for the liberal manginas, but they don&#039;t really count).  Now, granted, my analogy could have been clearer (such as &quot;you wouldn&#039;t know something if it hit you&quot;), but it was hardly &quot;stupidity.&quot;  And that&#039;s the issue with you.  Anyone who doesn&#039;t bow to your particular set of beliefs is automatically a total idiot.  Not wrong, not misguided, but a complete imbecile (again, look at some of the stuff you&#039;ve called people on here).  You might want to ponder that for a moment (though you&#039;re so full of yourself that you never will).    

As for feminists, they are hardly preconceived.  Every, and I do mean every woman I&#039;ve come across that says &quot;I&#039;m a feminist,&quot; will eventually trip themselves up with some man-hating comment (no matter how hard they try, even if they&#039;re married).  And I don&#039;t think that attitude is going to change anytime soon.  So if I encounter that attitude, then don&#039;t be surprised if I&#039;m going to fire back.  I have no issues whatsoever with women gaining equality, but I&#039;m certainly not interested in men becoming second-class citizens (which feminist leaders definitely preach to their disciples).  You don&#039;t seem all that oppressed to me, so enough with the chattel crap.   

&quot;You’re also the one who jumped all over Andy. It was a relief, in many ways, for me to see that, because it became absolutely clear that your hatred of me actually doesn’t have anything to do with me.&quot;

You confuse hatred with annoyance with someone.  Andy might have clarified it, but I still think it was a poorly written piece of satire (for good conservative satire, try Iowahawk).  And that&#039;s the difference between you and I.  I make snarky and snippy comments about a person&#039;s thoughts, but you personally insult people.    

&quot;You treat other people just as badly, because you’re just that kind of person.&quot;

Oh, look who&#039;s calling the kettle black.  I might disparage someone&#039;s comments (which I have many times), but you resort to rank namecalling when you don&#039;t get your own way.  Try looking in the mirror sometime before you start that nonsense.  

I am tactless because I&#039;m sick of being polite when everyone around me (male or female) does their very best to be an asshole.  You might have noticed that decorum seems to have gone out the window these days.

&quot;The differences between Andy and I are small, such as that I fought back, for which you can never forgive me.&quot;

No, actually they&#039;re much greater than you can obviously comprehend.  My issue was with Andy.  I wanted to see how Andy would respond; he did so and I was mistaken.  Let&#039;s talk about the hatred here.  You obviously dislike me (no worries), so you decided to pick a fight.  Ok, no problem.  I can handle myself.  

BTW, your response spoke volumes about your feminist attitude.  You impled that I wasn&#039;t going to apologize or admit wrongdoing because you&#039;re a woman.  I didn&#039;t (and won&#039;t) apologize because you sound like a pompous ass who didn&#039;t prove anything but being a narcisstic know-it-all.  So just because I disagree with you, you automatically assume that it&#039;s because you&#039;re a woman and I just can&#039;t handle arguing with women (or hate women in some way).  If anything, I believe that you can&#039;t handle men who argue back when you make a comment.  So I guess we&#039;re at an impasse in that respect. 

If that was the case, I wouldn&#039;t be working where I am now, where virtually all my co-workers (and higher-up supervisors) are women.  I sass them, they sass me.  No big deal.  You&#039;re just bitter (like most feminists).  Cripes, I wouldn&#039;t even be on here reading Cassy&#039;s posts if I didn&#039;t like women (you do realize that she&#039;s female, right?).  Most of the conservative blogs that I read are women, since the male blogs are pretty milquetoast and wishy-washy (for some reason, conservative women tell it like it is and I like that; I just wish some of the male bloggers could grow a similar set of balls). 

I&#039;m sure all of this will go right over your head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Mat, Mat, Mat.</p>
<p>You just don’t get it, do you? You are the one – not me! – who has all sorts of preconceived notions about other people (i.e. those who call themselves feminists). You’re the one who mentioned Alpha males punching women (or a woman in particular – i.e. me) in the face… which, although obviously not literal, is still hilarious in its stupidity.&#8221;</p>
<p>I suggest you go back and look at your myriad of responses (not just to me) on this website since you&#8217;ve started posted here.  It&#8217;ll reveal a pattern.  BTW, you&#8217;re the one who started going off on the alpha/beta male crap(who exactly talks like this anyway? Guys are just that&#8230;guys&#8230;well except for the liberal manginas, but they don&#8217;t really count).  Now, granted, my analogy could have been clearer (such as &#8220;you wouldn&#8217;t know something if it hit you&#8221;), but it was hardly &#8220;stupidity.&#8221;  And that&#8217;s the issue with you.  Anyone who doesn&#8217;t bow to your particular set of beliefs is automatically a total idiot.  Not wrong, not misguided, but a complete imbecile (again, look at some of the stuff you&#8217;ve called people on here).  You might want to ponder that for a moment (though you&#8217;re so full of yourself that you never will).    </p>
<p>As for feminists, they are hardly preconceived.  Every, and I do mean every woman I&#8217;ve come across that says &#8220;I&#8217;m a feminist,&#8221; will eventually trip themselves up with some man-hating comment (no matter how hard they try, even if they&#8217;re married).  And I don&#8217;t think that attitude is going to change anytime soon.  So if I encounter that attitude, then don&#8217;t be surprised if I&#8217;m going to fire back.  I have no issues whatsoever with women gaining equality, but I&#8217;m certainly not interested in men becoming second-class citizens (which feminist leaders definitely preach to their disciples).  You don&#8217;t seem all that oppressed to me, so enough with the chattel crap.   </p>
<p>&#8220;You’re also the one who jumped all over Andy. It was a relief, in many ways, for me to see that, because it became absolutely clear that your hatred of me actually doesn’t have anything to do with me.&#8221;</p>
<p>You confuse hatred with annoyance with someone.  Andy might have clarified it, but I still think it was a poorly written piece of satire (for good conservative satire, try Iowahawk).  And that&#8217;s the difference between you and I.  I make snarky and snippy comments about a person&#8217;s thoughts, but you personally insult people.    </p>
<p>&#8220;You treat other people just as badly, because you’re just that kind of person.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, look who&#8217;s calling the kettle black.  I might disparage someone&#8217;s comments (which I have many times), but you resort to rank namecalling when you don&#8217;t get your own way.  Try looking in the mirror sometime before you start that nonsense.  </p>
<p>I am tactless because I&#8217;m sick of being polite when everyone around me (male or female) does their very best to be an asshole.  You might have noticed that decorum seems to have gone out the window these days.</p>
<p>&#8220;The differences between Andy and I are small, such as that I fought back, for which you can never forgive me.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, actually they&#8217;re much greater than you can obviously comprehend.  My issue was with Andy.  I wanted to see how Andy would respond; he did so and I was mistaken.  Let&#8217;s talk about the hatred here.  You obviously dislike me (no worries), so you decided to pick a fight.  Ok, no problem.  I can handle myself.  </p>
<p>BTW, your response spoke volumes about your feminist attitude.  You impled that I wasn&#8217;t going to apologize or admit wrongdoing because you&#8217;re a woman.  I didn&#8217;t (and won&#8217;t) apologize because you sound like a pompous ass who didn&#8217;t prove anything but being a narcisstic know-it-all.  So just because I disagree with you, you automatically assume that it&#8217;s because you&#8217;re a woman and I just can&#8217;t handle arguing with women (or hate women in some way).  If anything, I believe that you can&#8217;t handle men who argue back when you make a comment.  So I guess we&#8217;re at an impasse in that respect. </p>
<p>If that was the case, I wouldn&#8217;t be working where I am now, where virtually all my co-workers (and higher-up supervisors) are women.  I sass them, they sass me.  No big deal.  You&#8217;re just bitter (like most feminists).  Cripes, I wouldn&#8217;t even be on here reading Cassy&#8217;s posts if I didn&#8217;t like women (you do realize that she&#8217;s female, right?).  Most of the conservative blogs that I read are women, since the male blogs are pretty milquetoast and wishy-washy (for some reason, conservative women tell it like it is and I like that; I just wish some of the male bloggers could grow a similar set of balls). </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure all of this will go right over your head.</p>
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		<title>By: Roxeanne de Luca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roxeanne de Luca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 05:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mat, Mat, Mat.

You just don&#039;t get it, do you?  You are the one - not me! - who has all sorts of preconceived notions about other people (i.e. those who call themselves feminists). You&#039;re the one who mentioned Alpha males punching women (or a woman in particular - i.e. me) in the face... which, although obviously not literal, is still hilarious in its stupidity.

You&#039;re also the one who jumped all over Andy.  It was a relief, in many ways, for me to see that, because it became absolutely clear that your hatred of me actually doesn&#039;t have anything to do with me.  You treat other people just as badly, because you&#039;re just that kind of person. The differences between Andy and I are small, such as that I fought back, for which you can never forgive me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mat, Mat, Mat.</p>
<p>You just don&#8217;t get it, do you?  You are the one &#8211; not me! &#8211; who has all sorts of preconceived notions about other people (i.e. those who call themselves feminists). You&#8217;re the one who mentioned Alpha males punching women (or a woman in particular &#8211; i.e. me) in the face&#8230; which, although obviously not literal, is still hilarious in its stupidity.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re also the one who jumped all over Andy.  It was a relief, in many ways, for me to see that, because it became absolutely clear that your hatred of me actually doesn&#8217;t have anything to do with me.  You treat other people just as badly, because you&#8217;re just that kind of person. The differences between Andy and I are small, such as that I fought back, for which you can never forgive me.</p>
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		<title>By: Mat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That’s comedy, Mat. Alpha males punching women in the face? All feminists – even the conservative ones like myself, Christina Hoff Summers, Sarah Palin, etc – being grudge-holding harpies who are in need of guidance from a man who acts like he’s hung like a half-eaten Tic Tac?&quot; 

I&#039;m naturally not all that surprised that you took my comment in the literal sense.  But then, you&#039;re the one making all sorts of pre-conceptions about men.  BTW, you&#039;ll be waiting a while for that admission from me.  As for an admission that I was wrong, I believe that I said in several posts that I was waiting on Andy to clarify.  I never said I was right all the time.  Can you say the same?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That’s comedy, Mat. Alpha males punching women in the face? All feminists – even the conservative ones like myself, Christina Hoff Summers, Sarah Palin, etc – being grudge-holding harpies who are in need of guidance from a man who acts like he’s hung like a half-eaten Tic Tac?&#8221; </p>
<p>I&#8217;m naturally not all that surprised that you took my comment in the literal sense.  But then, you&#8217;re the one making all sorts of pre-conceptions about men.  BTW, you&#8217;ll be waiting a while for that admission from me.  As for an admission that I was wrong, I believe that I said in several posts that I was waiting on Andy to clarify.  I never said I was right all the time.  Can you say the same?</p>
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		<title>By: Roxeanne de Luca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roxeanne de Luca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy,

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Mat,

My comments were sarcastic. I am a single man in my 20s who is pro-life and conservative, and wants to love a women, marry her, and make a lifelong commitment to her. Many other young single men I know want to just use women as sex objects, never thinking about marriage, dumping them as they please, and if they accidently “knock one up”, they pressure the mothers to have abortions. Most of these guys are big time liberals. Yet to the feminists, conservative=bad and liberal=good.

Thanks a lot Roxanne for clarifying this.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You&#039;re welcome.

I experienced a lot of the same in college, and, as I&#039;ve previously pointed out to Mat, have experienced a lot of the same since.  There are many politically aware men who know that the &quot;feminist&quot; - I put the word in quotes because those women do not speak for me - ideology gives them the grounds to use women without social condemnation.  

Now, on to less weighty matters - you&#039;re a single guy, in Pennsylvania, in his (early? mid? late?) 20s who is looking for, presumably, a nice lady?  Do allow me to play matchmaker....!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy,</p>
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Mat,</p>
<p>My comments were sarcastic. I am a single man in my 20s who is pro-life and conservative, and wants to love a women, marry her, and make a lifelong commitment to her. Many other young single men I know want to just use women as sex objects, never thinking about marriage, dumping them as they please, and if they accidently “knock one up”, they pressure the mothers to have abortions. Most of these guys are big time liberals. Yet to the feminists, conservative=bad and liberal=good.</p>
<p>Thanks a lot Roxanne for clarifying this.</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re welcome.</p>
<p>I experienced a lot of the same in college, and, as I&#8217;ve previously pointed out to Mat, have experienced a lot of the same since.  There are many politically aware men who know that the &#8220;feminist&#8221; &#8211; I put the word in quotes because those women do not speak for me &#8211; ideology gives them the grounds to use women without social condemnation.  </p>
<p>Now, on to less weighty matters &#8211; you&#8217;re a single guy, in Pennsylvania, in his (early? mid? late?) 20s who is looking for, presumably, a nice lady?  Do allow me to play matchmaker&#8230;.!</p>
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		<title>By: Roxeanne de Luca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roxeanne de Luca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Personally, I don’t think you’d know what an alpha male is if he punched you in the face, but you seem to get a kick out of labeling men (could be that feminist grudge you keep holding on the rest of us…hint hint, nudge nudge, know what I mean?).&lt;/blockquote&gt;
ROFLMAO.

That&#039;s comedy, Mat.  Alpha males punching women in the face?  All feminists - even the conservative ones like myself, Christina Hoff Summers, Sarah Palin, etc - being grudge-holding harpies who are in need of guidance from a man who acts like he&#039;s hung like a half-eaten Tic Tac?  

I haven&#039;t laughed so hard in a while.  Keep &#039;em coming... you should be on Jon Stewart. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Personally, I don’t think you’d know what an alpha male is if he punched you in the face, but you seem to get a kick out of labeling men (could be that feminist grudge you keep holding on the rest of us…hint hint, nudge nudge, know what I mean?).</p></blockquote>
<p>ROFLMAO.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s comedy, Mat.  Alpha males punching women in the face?  All feminists &#8211; even the conservative ones like myself, Christina Hoff Summers, Sarah Palin, etc &#8211; being grudge-holding harpies who are in need of guidance from a man who acts like he&#8217;s hung like a half-eaten Tic Tac?  </p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t laughed so hard in a while.  Keep &#8216;em coming&#8230; you should be on Jon Stewart. <img src='http://www.cassyfiano.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Roxeanne de Luca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roxeanne de Luca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re welcome, Andy.

Mat - glad that you could admit to a man that you were wrong.  Next up, admitting the same to me.</description>
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<p>Mat &#8211; glad that you could admit to a man that you were wrong.  Next up, admitting the same to me.</p>
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