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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 06:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t think she dealt with social pressures throughout her political career? Did you see women in politics 100 years ago? No. So you must assume something happened between now and back then right? You are hating on the very cause that allows you to be employed and able to raise 4 children. Some employers a couple of decades ago wouldn&#039;t even have employed women, or if they did they wouldn&#039;t pay them a sufficient amount. By sufficient, of course I mean enough money to make a living. Something you may not realize, is this still occurs. Women don&#039;t get paid as much as men in many currently existing businesses. How&#039;s that for condescending? If you want to make a point about wealth, that&#039;s just given that any politician needs wealth. You spend millions of dollars on a campaign, obviously that wealth won&#039;t be coming all out of your pocket. You need to develop a reputation, for people to truly believe in you and fund your campaign. Sarah Palin is obviously more aware of the barriers she had to cross than you are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t think she dealt with social pressures throughout her political career? Did you see women in politics 100 years ago? No. So you must assume something happened between now and back then right? You are hating on the very cause that allows you to be employed and able to raise 4 children. Some employers a couple of decades ago wouldn&#8217;t even have employed women, or if they did they wouldn&#8217;t pay them a sufficient amount. By sufficient, of course I mean enough money to make a living. Something you may not realize, is this still occurs. Women don&#8217;t get paid as much as men in many currently existing businesses. How&#8217;s that for condescending? If you want to make a point about wealth, that&#8217;s just given that any politician needs wealth. You spend millions of dollars on a campaign, obviously that wealth won&#8217;t be coming all out of your pocket. You need to develop a reputation, for people to truly believe in you and fund your campaign. Sarah Palin is obviously more aware of the barriers she had to cross than you are.</p>
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		<title>By: Carrie_L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carrie_L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 15:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why worry about whether or not she is giving credit to women that have set the foundation for her? She is not vp yet. Dont focus on her credit sheet now. Worry about her political intelligence and desision making skills. Stop bitching. Start Listening. When the time comes go on and bitch. Right now your whining.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why worry about whether or not she is giving credit to women that have set the foundation for her? She is not vp yet. Dont focus on her credit sheet now. Worry about her political intelligence and desision making skills. Stop bitching. Start Listening. When the time comes go on and bitch. Right now your whining.</p>
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		<title>By: posterior_sling</title>
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		<dc:creator>posterior_sling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Making gender the center of anything is so far off the mark that all sound like fools, dividing from one another.  What happened to equality, stand together, rah rah and all that jazz?  Seems the true enemy has us exactly where he wants us.  That&#039;s my last comment, I won&#039;t argue the point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Making gender the center of anything is so far off the mark that all sound like fools, dividing from one another.  What happened to equality, stand together, rah rah and all that jazz?  Seems the true enemy has us exactly where he wants us.  That&#8217;s my last comment, I won&#8217;t argue the point.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 13:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember the same silly arguments about Condi Rice: How dare she not sing the praises of affirmative action when she obviously benefitted from it.  Sarah Palin is the Uncle Tom of feminism.  Sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember the same silly arguments about Condi Rice: How dare she not sing the praises of affirmative action when she obviously benefitted from it.  Sarah Palin is the Uncle Tom of feminism.  Sad.</p>
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		<title>By: mayorjimmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>mayorjimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 07:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok so just how far back do we want to take this &quot;you couldn&#039;t have gotten where you were today without someone paving the way&quot; argument?  

I mean, the feminists are mad because Sarah will not give the old guard their props on what they did and yet, i don&#039;t really recall any of them giving out props to the people who made it possible for THEM to exercise a freedom of speech to achieve what they achieved in their lives.  ironically enough, they spent their time bashing the men who made their accomplishments possible and they bash them to this day.  i&#039;m sure they use the line &quot;they didn&#039;t do any of that for woman&#039;s freedoms!!&quot; line to justify this rubbish.  which of course begs the question &quot;do they really think we&#039;re stupid enough to believe Steinem and her crew did all their work just to see a REPUBLICAN woman in the White House?&quot;  yeah, i didn&#039;t think so either.

so, just as the old feminist guard feels no obligation to toot the horn of the old white men who worked to achieve rights and freedoms they have benefited from and used to accomplish all they have in their lives, i see no reason Sarah should feel any obligation to toot the horns of some women who didn&#039;t work to give the White House to a woman who loves the bible, hates abortion, and feels that she can be a worker AND a mother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok so just how far back do we want to take this &#8220;you couldn&#8217;t have gotten where you were today without someone paving the way&#8221; argument?  </p>
<p>I mean, the feminists are mad because Sarah will not give the old guard their props on what they did and yet, i don&#8217;t really recall any of them giving out props to the people who made it possible for THEM to exercise a freedom of speech to achieve what they achieved in their lives.  ironically enough, they spent their time bashing the men who made their accomplishments possible and they bash them to this day.  i&#8217;m sure they use the line &#8220;they didn&#8217;t do any of that for woman&#8217;s freedoms!!&#8221; line to justify this rubbish.  which of course begs the question &#8220;do they really think we&#8217;re stupid enough to believe Steinem and her crew did all their work just to see a REPUBLICAN woman in the White House?&#8221;  yeah, i didn&#8217;t think so either.</p>
<p>so, just as the old feminist guard feels no obligation to toot the horn of the old white men who worked to achieve rights and freedoms they have benefited from and used to accomplish all they have in their lives, i see no reason Sarah should feel any obligation to toot the horns of some women who didn&#8217;t work to give the White House to a woman who loves the bible, hates abortion, and feels that she can be a worker AND a mother.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 01:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Of course Cassy climbed to the top because of her own hard work but the foundation for her success was put there by feminists.&quot;

And this is where the factual content of your argument breaks down, at least to the point that you can substantiate the statement to any certainty. While it is true that everything that has come before has an impact, or perhaps because of that, you cannot trace an individual&#039;s success to any particular person. Who is more important in the scheme of the things? The women who campaigned for the vote, or the men who approved the legislation that gave them the vote. (And I wish to stress at this point that I do not believe that it was fair, right, or moral that women were denied the vote, any more than it was right for any other group to be denied basic rights. I am simply referring to the facts. Women did not have the vote. They did not take it by force of arms. They were dependent on using the legal process and men.)

By saying this, I am not implying superiority of men or inferiority of women. My firm believe is that the sexes are equal, though certainly not &quot;the same.&quot; So, in the same way that you cannot say technically that anyone made it without some kind of help from the past, it is equally foolish to claim that the loudest or most noticeable voices were the truly influential. I read that the publisher who received &quot;Harry Potter&quot; threw the manuscript in the discard pile. His daughter pulled it out and read it and told him he had to publish that book. The rest, as they say, is history. If you wish to assign high adulation to a particular few, that is your privilege. To me, the past and current crop of loud, shrill types do far more harm to the cause of equality than the most blatant chauvinist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Of course Cassy climbed to the top because of her own hard work but the foundation for her success was put there by feminists.&#8221;</p>
<p>And this is where the factual content of your argument breaks down, at least to the point that you can substantiate the statement to any certainty. While it is true that everything that has come before has an impact, or perhaps because of that, you cannot trace an individual&#8217;s success to any particular person. Who is more important in the scheme of the things? The women who campaigned for the vote, or the men who approved the legislation that gave them the vote. (And I wish to stress at this point that I do not believe that it was fair, right, or moral that women were denied the vote, any more than it was right for any other group to be denied basic rights. I am simply referring to the facts. Women did not have the vote. They did not take it by force of arms. They were dependent on using the legal process and men.)</p>
<p>By saying this, I am not implying superiority of men or inferiority of women. My firm believe is that the sexes are equal, though certainly not &#8220;the same.&#8221; So, in the same way that you cannot say technically that anyone made it without some kind of help from the past, it is equally foolish to claim that the loudest or most noticeable voices were the truly influential. I read that the publisher who received &#8220;Harry Potter&#8221; threw the manuscript in the discard pile. His daughter pulled it out and read it and told him he had to publish that book. The rest, as they say, is history. If you wish to assign high adulation to a particular few, that is your privilege. To me, the past and current crop of loud, shrill types do far more harm to the cause of equality than the most blatant chauvinist.</p>
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		<title>By: NVJoJo</title>
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		<dc:creator>NVJoJo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to keep it semi-shallow (I am at work and have to pretend to be earning my keep).

But my original point is that you can’t say that you got somewhere *all on your own* because no one has. Nearly everything I am today is because of the sacrifices someone made yesterday.  From my clean water to my education to my right to vote, they are all due to other people. 

Of course Cassy climbed to the top because of her own hard work but the foundation for her success was put there by feminists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to keep it semi-shallow (I am at work and have to pretend to be earning my keep).</p>
<p>But my original point is that you can’t say that you got somewhere *all on your own* because no one has. Nearly everything I am today is because of the sacrifices someone made yesterday.  From my clean water to my education to my right to vote, they are all due to other people. </p>
<p>Of course Cassy climbed to the top because of her own hard work but the foundation for her success was put there by feminists.</p>
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		<title>By: Pheomelanin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pheomelanin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms. Fiano,
I am a Feminist.  I am also a Conservative.
That said, my mother (And grandmother.  And, come to think of it, all my male relatives as well) taught me to earn my own as a person, with my gender having nothing to do with my capacity for success.  My mother is, by the way, a &quot;first wave Feminist.&quot;
It is my opinion that women such as Ms. Granju have been raised by &quot;Steinem Feminists.&quot;  This means that she is operating under the delusion that she is owed preferential treatment and special rights because of her gender, and that men OWE her, and furthermore, a man should be punished if he refuses to give her what she belives he owes her.
I find Mr. Limbaugh&#039;s reference to N.O.W. as &quot;N.A.G.s&quot; amusing.  I&#039;m not partial to taking personally the slanted, sexual remarks of my predominately male colleagues.  I don&#039;t think it is a negative reflection on my gender when a man cuts me off in traffic, holds a door open for me, flirts with me, or offers to pay for dinner on a date.
Ms. Granju, in my opinion, would sue Mr. Limbaugh, her male colleagues (for remarks and also for daring to make more money than her - the cheeky bastard!), and any other male-gendered person she felt oppressed her right to preferential treatment and favors, if only she could find a court in all the land that wouldn&#039;t look at her like she was (obviously) off her rocker.  A look that would, of course, serve only to perpetuate her grandiose self-image as a Breasted American to Whom All Others are Obligated and reinforce her self-righteousness.
The point of the Feminist Movement was supposed to be about giving American women a voice, a right to choose (please don&#039;t simplify that remark to being about abortion, it is meant far more universal than that), and recognition for the choices and successes and accomplishments we achieve as individuals.  
You and I, and every woman of our generation, benefit directly from the Feminist Movement and the &quot;first wave Feminists.&quot;  Even Evil Steinem the Harpy for showing how it ISN&#039;T done.  They paved the way for us, even if the pavement is still rocky and a bit off course occasionally.  And our obligation to them is this: be successful at whatever you choose to do; don&#039;t blame men (or other women, for that matter) for your failures or your achievements; and educate these self-loathing, self-righteous, delusional failures of Feminism.
Thank you ever so much for holding Ms. Grandju accountable for her failure as a Feminist.  Let&#039;s hope that someday, she understands that Governor Palin, and so many other American women, are true Feminists.  We get it, you see.  No one OWES us anything - we have the right to earn it ourselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms. Fiano,<br />
I am a Feminist.  I am also a Conservative.<br />
That said, my mother (And grandmother.  And, come to think of it, all my male relatives as well) taught me to earn my own as a person, with my gender having nothing to do with my capacity for success.  My mother is, by the way, a &#8220;first wave Feminist.&#8221;<br />
It is my opinion that women such as Ms. Granju have been raised by &#8220;Steinem Feminists.&#8221;  This means that she is operating under the delusion that she is owed preferential treatment and special rights because of her gender, and that men OWE her, and furthermore, a man should be punished if he refuses to give her what she belives he owes her.<br />
I find Mr. Limbaugh&#8217;s reference to N.O.W. as &#8220;N.A.G.s&#8221; amusing.  I&#8217;m not partial to taking personally the slanted, sexual remarks of my predominately male colleagues.  I don&#8217;t think it is a negative reflection on my gender when a man cuts me off in traffic, holds a door open for me, flirts with me, or offers to pay for dinner on a date.<br />
Ms. Granju, in my opinion, would sue Mr. Limbaugh, her male colleagues (for remarks and also for daring to make more money than her &#8211; the cheeky bastard!), and any other male-gendered person she felt oppressed her right to preferential treatment and favors, if only she could find a court in all the land that wouldn&#8217;t look at her like she was (obviously) off her rocker.  A look that would, of course, serve only to perpetuate her grandiose self-image as a Breasted American to Whom All Others are Obligated and reinforce her self-righteousness.<br />
The point of the Feminist Movement was supposed to be about giving American women a voice, a right to choose (please don&#8217;t simplify that remark to being about abortion, it is meant far more universal than that), and recognition for the choices and successes and accomplishments we achieve as individuals.<br />
You and I, and every woman of our generation, benefit directly from the Feminist Movement and the &#8220;first wave Feminists.&#8221;  Even Evil Steinem the Harpy for showing how it ISN&#8217;T done.  They paved the way for us, even if the pavement is still rocky and a bit off course occasionally.  And our obligation to them is this: be successful at whatever you choose to do; don&#8217;t blame men (or other women, for that matter) for your failures or your achievements; and educate these self-loathing, self-righteous, delusional failures of Feminism.<br />
Thank you ever so much for holding Ms. Grandju accountable for her failure as a Feminist.  Let&#8217;s hope that someday, she understands that Governor Palin, and so many other American women, are true Feminists.  We get it, you see.  No one OWES us anything &#8211; we have the right to earn it ourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen very little outside of opinion from you. Please go ahead. Demonstrate some intellectual reasoning if you dare...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen very little outside of opinion from you. Please go ahead. Demonstrate some intellectual reasoning if you dare&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: NVJoJo</title>
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		<dc:creator>NVJoJo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you were interested in discussing this on an intellectual level you should have respond with facts rather than your emotional opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you were interested in discussing this on an intellectual level you should have respond with facts rather than your emotional opinion.</p>
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