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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://www.cassyfiano.com/2008/07/new-orleans-saints-needed#comment-3023</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 04:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cassey:

Your trip sounds awful!  I am so sorry that you missed a positive NOLA experience.  My first trip to NOLA was in the early 80s as a teenager, then Mardi Gras visits during college.  My husband, a first responder, was on a search and rescue team within 48 hrs after Katrina. My last trip was for a Saints game after Katrina.  My sis was there earlier this week.  We are north louisiana natives.  NOLA, as they say, is a whole other country.  The Historical Society of New Orleans does wonderful, educational guided tours of the Quarter, the cemetaries, the garden district etc.  New Orleans is a third world country where you are responsible for your own safety and common sense is a requirement.  BUT...there is no place like it.  Royal Street is a must.  I'm now of the age where food is so much more important that 3 for 1 daquaris and the top five best meals of my life have been enjoyed and savored in NOLA. The music can be wonderful!!  Blues, a cold cocktail on the patio, as the humid breeze blows thru the evening. Or nothing like a 100 new friends at the Cat's Meow or a friendly jibe from a Red Skins fan as as you meet in line for beniets before the game.  C'mon...NOLA brought us the Manning football dynasty, Fats Domino and Harry Connick, Jr.  It has some redeeming qualities....

Plan it next time, and try it again.  You may never love it, but at least give it a fair evaluation.  (P.S.  I would never LIVE in NOLA - 3 or 4 days a trip is about the right amount of time)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cassey:</p>
<p>Your trip sounds awful!  I am so sorry that you missed a positive NOLA experience.  My first trip to NOLA was in the early 80s as a teenager, then Mardi Gras visits during college.  My husband, a first responder, was on a search and rescue team within 48 hrs after Katrina. My last trip was for a Saints game after Katrina.  My sis was there earlier this week.  We are north louisiana natives.  NOLA, as they say, is a whole other country.  The Historical Society of New Orleans does wonderful, educational guided tours of the Quarter, the cemetaries, the garden district etc.  New Orleans is a third world country where you are responsible for your own safety and common sense is a requirement.  BUT&#8230;there is no place like it.  Royal Street is a must.  I&#8217;m now of the age where food is so much more important that 3 for 1 daquaris and the top five best meals of my life have been enjoyed and savored in NOLA. The music can be wonderful!!  Blues, a cold cocktail on the patio, as the humid breeze blows thru the evening. Or nothing like a 100 new friends at the Cat&#8217;s Meow or a friendly jibe from a Red Skins fan as as you meet in line for beniets before the game.  C&#8217;mon&#8230;NOLA brought us the Manning football dynasty, Fats Domino and Harry Connick, Jr.  It has some redeeming qualities&#8230;.</p>
<p>Plan it next time, and try it again.  You may never love it, but at least give it a fair evaluation.  (P.S.  I would never LIVE in NOLA - 3 or 4 days a trip is about the right amount of time)</p>
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		<title>By: BlackRedneck</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlackRedneck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went to New Orleans with a group of 4 to see the Battle of the Bands (between two black colleges, Southern and Grambling).  This was pre-Katrina.  We had lots of fun but New Orleans can be a pit. Dirty, shabby, and rundown doesn't begin to describe it.  We walked from Bourbon street to the stadium-- big mistake.  I grew up in the hood in L.A. and can spot the crazies.  New Orleans is full of them.  My sister's friend is from Compton and she thought New Orleans was SCARY.  I found it highly amusing that the Compton person was afraid of New Orleans. She kept pointing out how horrible and nasty it looked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to New Orleans with a group of 4 to see the Battle of the Bands (between two black colleges, Southern and Grambling).  This was pre-Katrina.  We had lots of fun but New Orleans can be a pit. Dirty, shabby, and rundown doesn&#8217;t begin to describe it.  We walked from Bourbon street to the stadium&#8211; big mistake.  I grew up in the hood in L.A. and can spot the crazies.  New Orleans is full of them.  My sister&#8217;s friend is from Compton and she thought New Orleans was SCARY.  I found it highly amusing that the Compton person was afraid of New Orleans. She kept pointing out how horrible and nasty it looked.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Mikey</title>
		<link>http://www.cassyfiano.com/2008/07/new-orleans-saints-needed#comment-2875</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle Mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 21:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A friend of mine said he went during Mardi Gras and watched a policeman approach a group of college kids who were inhaling nitrous oxide from balloons, only to ask for a balloon himself, inhale it, and stagger away. Now that's what I call protecting and serving.

It's a toilet, just like Vegas is a toilet. Turds tend to congregate in toilets, so it shouldn't surprise anyone that it stinks in Nawlins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A friend of mine said he went during Mardi Gras and watched a policeman approach a group of college kids who were inhaling nitrous oxide from balloons, only to ask for a balloon himself, inhale it, and stagger away. Now that&#8217;s what I call protecting and serving.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a toilet, just like Vegas is a toilet. Turds tend to congregate in toilets, so it shouldn&#8217;t surprise anyone that it stinks in Nawlins.</p>
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		<title>By: KevinQC</title>
		<link>http://www.cassyfiano.com/2008/07/new-orleans-saints-needed#comment-2848</link>
		<dc:creator>KevinQC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 04:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New Orleans definitely isn't for everyone. I used to go there all the time when I lived in Mississippi and while it can be just as you described - I totally believe you - it also isn't always like that. I'd be interested in knowing what conventions, concerts, or other events were going on when you were there. That can make a big difference. The worst trip I ever had there was for New Year's when the Sugar Bowl (UVA and Tennessee - 1991) crowds were in town. It was horrific... simply horrific. I never had a bad experience during Mardi Gras though. I'm going back there this summer for the first time post hurricane, and I'm looking forward to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New Orleans definitely isn&#8217;t for everyone. I used to go there all the time when I lived in Mississippi and while it can be just as you described - I totally believe you - it also isn&#8217;t always like that. I&#8217;d be interested in knowing what conventions, concerts, or other events were going on when you were there. That can make a big difference. The worst trip I ever had there was for New Year&#8217;s when the Sugar Bowl (UVA and Tennessee - 1991) crowds were in town. It was horrific&#8230; simply horrific. I never had a bad experience during Mardi Gras though. I&#8217;m going back there this summer for the first time post hurricane, and I&#8217;m looking forward to it.</p>
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		<title>By: docjim505</title>
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		<dc:creator>docjim505</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Went to NO a year before Katrina to visit a friend at Tulane.  If I never go back, it'll be too soon.  Filthy, full of degenerates and thugs.  Bourbon Street was interesting... in the way that a documentary about some primitive society of incestuous cannibals would be interesting.  Otherwise, it was disgusting and degrading.  My brother's NG unit went there on pass during an annual training in Biloxi a few years prior.  Some hood wandered up to them as they ate outside at a restaurant and announced that, if they didn't part with $0.63, he'd kill one of them.  Happily, they were able to cough up the coin, so he wandered off and was beaten and arrested by the NOPD a few minutes later.

Personally, I'd rather take vacation in Fallujah than go back to NO.

But I have to admit, the Audobon Aquarium and the D-Day Museum were very nice.  And the food is everything that people claim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Went to NO a year before Katrina to visit a friend at Tulane.  If I never go back, it&#8217;ll be too soon.  Filthy, full of degenerates and thugs.  Bourbon Street was interesting&#8230; in the way that a documentary about some primitive society of incestuous cannibals would be interesting.  Otherwise, it was disgusting and degrading.  My brother&#8217;s NG unit went there on pass during an annual training in Biloxi a few years prior.  Some hood wandered up to them as they ate outside at a restaurant and announced that, if they didn&#8217;t part with $0.63, he&#8217;d kill one of them.  Happily, they were able to cough up the coin, so he wandered off and was beaten and arrested by the NOPD a few minutes later.</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;d rather take vacation in Fallujah than go back to NO.</p>
<p>But I have to admit, the Audobon Aquarium and the D-Day Museum were very nice.  And the food is everything that people claim.</p>
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		<title>By: Taylor</title>
		<link>http://www.cassyfiano.com/2008/07/new-orleans-saints-needed#comment-2837</link>
		<dc:creator>Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I visited New Orleans in 1995, when the ABA had its annual convention there.  The first thing I noticed was that in the convention information packet I received, there was a lot of information on places *not* to go to.  Never saw anything like that for any other ABA convention location I'd been to, not even New York City.

Luckily, a friend who was there at the time had attended Tulane Law School and was familiar with the city's "Go/No-Go" zones, so she was able to shepherd me around and we encountered no problems.  But it was still a creepy feeling to be confined to a tiny part of the city like it was some sort of wild-life sanctuary -- only the "wild life" was outside the sanctuary, not inside.

Aside from that, all I remember was that New Orleans was one of the most over-hyped places I've visited, right down to the vaunted jazz environment; listening to one particularly uninspired performance at a restaurant, it was all I could do to keep from jumping onto my chair and exclaiming, "When you're through warming up, why dontcha play somethin'?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I visited New Orleans in 1995, when the ABA had its annual convention there.  The first thing I noticed was that in the convention information packet I received, there was a lot of information on places *not* to go to.  Never saw anything like that for any other ABA convention location I&#8217;d been to, not even New York City.</p>
<p>Luckily, a friend who was there at the time had attended Tulane Law School and was familiar with the city&#8217;s &#8220;Go/No-Go&#8221; zones, so she was able to shepherd me around and we encountered no problems.  But it was still a creepy feeling to be confined to a tiny part of the city like it was some sort of wild-life sanctuary &#8212; only the &#8220;wild life&#8221; was outside the sanctuary, not inside.</p>
<p>Aside from that, all I remember was that New Orleans was one of the most over-hyped places I&#8217;ve visited, right down to the vaunted jazz environment; listening to one particularly uninspired performance at a restaurant, it was all I could do to keep from jumping onto my chair and exclaiming, &#8220;When you&#8217;re through warming up, why dontcha play somethin&#8217;?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Roderick Reilly</title>
		<link>http://www.cassyfiano.com/2008/07/new-orleans-saints-needed#comment-2836</link>
		<dc:creator>Roderick Reilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fascinating thread! It's interesting how widely varying the perceptions are of the very same city. I have yet to go to NO, even though I have friends from there. I do have an overall perception of the city, and it is a mixed bag. One thing is for certain, though: New Orleans is, and has been for some time, a troubled city. People I know from other parts of Louisiana don't care for New Orleans, and many folks in Baton Rouge in particular panicked when large numbers of refugees from NO poured into their city after Katrina. According to one friend of mine from Baton Rouge, locals who didn't already have one went out to buy guns. 

Now my informal "polling" of Louisianians regarding NO may be wildly innacurate, but I do get the impression that NO is a unique city that is more like Singapore is to Malaysia, or Hong Kong is to China in it's relationship to Louisiana in general.

We Americans need to be reminded from time-to-time that we are one truly "multicultural" society, and NOT in that phony, lefty victimology/oppression crappola way that is taught in schools and toughted by demagogues. New Orleans happens to be one of America's cultural extremes, which is why it seems so "third world" to so many of us.

Also, the implicattions that Cass or some of the other respondents are racist or prejudiced because of their impressions or mindsets is nonsense. People behaving badly don't get a pass because of their color or ethnicity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating thread! It&#8217;s interesting how widely varying the perceptions are of the very same city. I have yet to go to NO, even though I have friends from there. I do have an overall perception of the city, and it is a mixed bag. One thing is for certain, though: New Orleans is, and has been for some time, a troubled city. People I know from other parts of Louisiana don&#8217;t care for New Orleans, and many folks in Baton Rouge in particular panicked when large numbers of refugees from NO poured into their city after Katrina. According to one friend of mine from Baton Rouge, locals who didn&#8217;t already have one went out to buy guns. </p>
<p>Now my informal &#8220;polling&#8221; of Louisianians regarding NO may be wildly innacurate, but I do get the impression that NO is a unique city that is more like Singapore is to Malaysia, or Hong Kong is to China in it&#8217;s relationship to Louisiana in general.</p>
<p>We Americans need to be reminded from time-to-time that we are one truly &#8220;multicultural&#8221; society, and NOT in that phony, lefty victimology/oppression crappola way that is taught in schools and toughted by demagogues. New Orleans happens to be one of America&#8217;s cultural extremes, which is why it seems so &#8220;third world&#8221; to so many of us.</p>
<p>Also, the implicattions that Cass or some of the other respondents are racist or prejudiced because of their impressions or mindsets is nonsense. People behaving badly don&#8217;t get a pass because of their color or ethnicity.</p>
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		<title>By: ElvenPhoenix</title>
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		<dc:creator>ElvenPhoenix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cassy:

It sounds like you went to New Orleans on the worst of all possible times.  I've been there multiple times, beginning when I was 18, and have always enjoyed it.  I have to admit I haven't been since Katrina, but I have friends who went last year for Jazz Fest who said that the city itself was still devastated, but that the Quarter was great.  My recommendation would be to go back, possibly during the St. Pat's weekend, with a local or frequent visitor to guide you.  Your experience would be completely different.

If you were to go on St. Pat's weekend you'd have the fun of Mardi Gras without the accompanying crowds and nastiness.  The St. Joseph's day parade wends it's way through the Quarter in the evening, while the St. Pat's parade takes place in the Garden District during the afternoon.  Plenty of beads to be had by all, with only the occasional drunk tourist shouting "show me your tits".  To merriment by all, as virtually no one does that on that particular weekend.

My recommendation would be to stay someplace like the Monteleone or one of the smaller inns in the Quarter.  Stroll up Royal St. as it is either the longest or second-longest street in the world for art galleries &#38; antique stores.  I forget which.  On the weekends they block it off during the afternoon and there are a lot of street performers.  The most amazing one I recall was a young man playing 2 guitars - one with his feet, one with his hands.  Chartres &#38; St. Charles are also good streets to stroll.

Down on Toulouse there's an Irish bar - O'Flaherty's.  If you like Irish music they usually have wonderful performers and the atmosphere is pretty relaxed.  

Jackson Square is usually crowded with street artists doing portraits and caricatures.  I've never had one done, but it's fun to watch them work.

The Farmer's Market has tons of touristy items at half off or more of the store price, if you're interested in those sort of things.  There are also tons of other merchandise to choose from.

No visit to the Quarter would be complete without a visit to the Cafe du Monde for cafe au lait and beignets.  The last time we were there there was and older black musician playing sax, serenading the customers.  It was wonderful.

Pat O'Brian's is a great place to sip a cocktail at dusk.  Who knows, they may pick you to light the fountain.  I got to do that one year.  There's something special about watching the flames and water mix.  And I love the food at Ralph &#38; Kacoo's (we have a franchise here!!), as well as the jazz Sunday brunch at the Court of the Two Sisters.  We also enjoy the Gumbo Shop and Petunia's.

My husband is a musician, so we end up spending lots of time going to various bars to hear live music.  I don't recall their names (there are SO MANY of them!).  I think the highlight for him on our last trip was seeing Marcia Ball at the House of Blues.

In short, know that New Orleans is not a safe city.  Bourbon Street has always been "nasty", from the sex shops, strip bars, drunks, and transvestites.  Avoid it if you don't find crowds and people pathologically interesting.  But there are a lot of other places to go and things to do in the Quarter that are quite enjoyable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cassy:</p>
<p>It sounds like you went to New Orleans on the worst of all possible times.  I&#8217;ve been there multiple times, beginning when I was 18, and have always enjoyed it.  I have to admit I haven&#8217;t been since Katrina, but I have friends who went last year for Jazz Fest who said that the city itself was still devastated, but that the Quarter was great.  My recommendation would be to go back, possibly during the St. Pat&#8217;s weekend, with a local or frequent visitor to guide you.  Your experience would be completely different.</p>
<p>If you were to go on St. Pat&#8217;s weekend you&#8217;d have the fun of Mardi Gras without the accompanying crowds and nastiness.  The St. Joseph&#8217;s day parade wends it&#8217;s way through the Quarter in the evening, while the St. Pat&#8217;s parade takes place in the Garden District during the afternoon.  Plenty of beads to be had by all, with only the occasional drunk tourist shouting &#8220;show me your tits&#8221;.  To merriment by all, as virtually no one does that on that particular weekend.</p>
<p>My recommendation would be to stay someplace like the Monteleone or one of the smaller inns in the Quarter.  Stroll up Royal St. as it is either the longest or second-longest street in the world for art galleries &amp; antique stores.  I forget which.  On the weekends they block it off during the afternoon and there are a lot of street performers.  The most amazing one I recall was a young man playing 2 guitars - one with his feet, one with his hands.  Chartres &amp; St. Charles are also good streets to stroll.</p>
<p>Down on Toulouse there&#8217;s an Irish bar - O&#8217;Flaherty&#8217;s.  If you like Irish music they usually have wonderful performers and the atmosphere is pretty relaxed.  </p>
<p>Jackson Square is usually crowded with street artists doing portraits and caricatures.  I&#8217;ve never had one done, but it&#8217;s fun to watch them work.</p>
<p>The Farmer&#8217;s Market has tons of touristy items at half off or more of the store price, if you&#8217;re interested in those sort of things.  There are also tons of other merchandise to choose from.</p>
<p>No visit to the Quarter would be complete without a visit to the Cafe du Monde for cafe au lait and beignets.  The last time we were there there was and older black musician playing sax, serenading the customers.  It was wonderful.</p>
<p>Pat O&#8217;Brian&#8217;s is a great place to sip a cocktail at dusk.  Who knows, they may pick you to light the fountain.  I got to do that one year.  There&#8217;s something special about watching the flames and water mix.  And I love the food at Ralph &amp; Kacoo&#8217;s (we have a franchise here!!), as well as the jazz Sunday brunch at the Court of the Two Sisters.  We also enjoy the Gumbo Shop and Petunia&#8217;s.</p>
<p>My husband is a musician, so we end up spending lots of time going to various bars to hear live music.  I don&#8217;t recall their names (there are SO MANY of them!).  I think the highlight for him on our last trip was seeing Marcia Ball at the House of Blues.</p>
<p>In short, know that New Orleans is not a safe city.  Bourbon Street has always been &#8220;nasty&#8221;, from the sex shops, strip bars, drunks, and transvestites.  Avoid it if you don&#8217;t find crowds and people pathologically interesting.  But there are a lot of other places to go and things to do in the Quarter that are quite enjoyable.</p>
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		<title>By: Texas Truth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Texas Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;New Orleans is a hell-hole. I can take it for about an hour and then i get tired of watching my back and my wallet. I even got propositioned on Bourbon Street by a transvestite a few years ago. My lovely bride and her best friend were with me. I thought it was funny, but then figured how hard up he/she must be to hit on a fat/balding white guy. Once you have seen New Orleans and Bourbon Street, there is not much reason to go back.&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>New Orleans is a hell-hole. I can take it for about an hour and then i get tired of watching my back and my wallet. I even got propositioned on Bourbon Street by a transvestite a few years ago. My lovely bride and her best friend were with me. I thought it was funny, but then figured how hard up he/she must be to hit on a fat/balding white guy. Once you have seen New Orleans and Bourbon Street, there is not much reason to go back.</b></p>
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		<title>By: Tina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 05:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Dark Aggie...the food is coming back to me....creole...beignets....oh the tasty cuisine of New Orleans...lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Dark Aggie&#8230;the food is coming back to me&#8230;.creole&#8230;beignets&#8230;.oh the tasty cuisine of New Orleans&#8230;lol</p>
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